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Graphic designer complies with client's vague demands to make his logo more "noticeable" by submitting pitch deck with 80% increased size

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  • A graphic designer makes adjustments to a logo for a client's pitch deck.
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  • Client wanted the logo "more noticeable." I made it more noticeable.

    This happened about a year into my freelance career when I was still being way too accommodating with revision requests and not pushing back nearly enough on vague feedback.
  • I had been working with this client for about three weeks on a brand identity package.
  • Small business, friendly guy, generally easy to work with except for one thing: he could not give specific feedback to save his life.
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  • Everything was "make it pop more" or "I want it to feel stronger" or "can we try something different." I would ask follow up questions, he would say "you know, just more like, you know." I did not know.
  • Two businessmen review the designer's mockup.
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  • We got to the logo revision stage. I sent over three concepts, he picked one, we went through two rounds of tweaks.
  • Font adjusted, colors refined, spacing cleaned up. I thought we were close. He came back with "I like it but the logo needs. to be more noticeable on the page.
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  • Can you make it more noticeable?" That was the entire brief. More noticeable. I sent one follow up question asking if he meant larger, bolder, higher contrast, or repositioned.
  • He replied "just more noticeable, you're the designer, you tell me." Okay then. I scaled the logo to fill aproximately 80% of the mockup page.
  • It was enormous. It was undeniably, aggressively, historically noticeable. I exported it cleanly, put it in the deck, and sent it over with a professional note saying "increased the logo prominence as requested, let me know your thoughts." He replied within ten minutes.
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  • "Haha okay that's not what I meant, can we scale it back." I wrote back that I was glad to adjust and that it would fall under the next revision round per our contract, which he had signed and which clearly stated that each round of revisions after the second was billed at my hourly rate.
  • He paid it. We landed on something good. He actually left me a five star review.
  • A difficult client assesses the designer's work while speaking over the phone.
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  • I still have that enormous mockup saved. I look at it sometimes when I need a little joy.
  • raf_boy As a graphic designer myself, I don't mind clients like this. The wishy-washy feedback (which drives me crazy!), I can do without. The fact that he kept to the contract, paid and left a raving review is golden.
  • Contrantier "You're the designer, you tell me This guy does not know how to talk in a way that garners respect. If you're the one leaving feedback as a client, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO TELLS THEM. Not the other way around. He's making the feedback. Not you. He can tell YOU what needs to be done. He's the one requesting, so he can make that request legible or he can buzz off and stop wasting your time. If he doesn't specify, that's how he gets the response "you have refused to clarify your feedback, u
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  • bi_polar2bear I would be your customer, because I have zero creativity. I can fix almost anything, but when you're asking for what to change on a logo, that's Greek to me. All fonts are equal. Contrast, what's that? I being facetious of course, but I can look at something and know it's not right, yet can't tell you why or how.
  • Toratchi888 Your joy embiggens my own this morning.
  • perolap I totally understand your frustation. But you should also know that designers that can translate a half written "feeling" to something tangible are worth the big $$$ for the client and usually a pleasure to work with.
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  • Nunov_DAbov Sounds like an interaction I heard on Judge Judy recently. JJ: "Specifically, what is 'your stuff' that you want the defendant to return?" Plaintiff: "ALL my stuff." Rinse and repeat until JJ dismissed the case. Humans have had spoken language for many tens of thousands of years but sometimes I think I get clearer interactions from my cat.
  • Leading-Knowledge712 An ad executive I know says she's happy to make as many rounds of revisions as the client wants since she charges a high hourly rate for each round of revisions. Generally after being dinged for multiple revisions, the client decides the work is satisfactory and stops asking for more changes.
  • FixinThePlanet "you know, just more like, you know" Lmaooo this bit gave me terrible flashbacks to when I worked in architecture and design haha
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  • faster People seem to be able to be fairly specific about physical architecture, but when it's software or visual design they forget how to describe things. I love this slightly exaggerated parody. https://www.smart- words.org/jokes/if-architects-had- to-work-like-programmers.html
  • nosecohn Good on you. Clients who describe what they want this way are so frustrating. It's even worse in audio.

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